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PostSubject: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyThu Aug 27, 2009 2:12 pm

Any particular songs out there you think would make a great title. Have fun and post it here!

The black Veil - johnny cash - a great song and a great title!

Citizen Eraze - Muse, i think it would be great for SF genre
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyThu Aug 27, 2009 8:13 pm

Map of the Problimatique by Muse would be a good one for a book. I think it would go good with a book about some troubled teen or young adult.

Oh Oh, it could be a narrative on their inner thoughts and even closely resemble schizophrenia. Only they wouldn't be schizophrenia, it could turn out to be some realistic dream and at the end they wake up confused about reality. Now I can't stop, if only I had the time to sit down and write it.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyThu Aug 27, 2009 9:22 pm

Ooh, ooh, I've got some!

Windowpane, by Opeth
The Drapery Falls, by Opeth
Ghost of the Sun, by Katatonia
West End Girls, by the Pet Shop Boys
Policy of Truth, by Depeche Mode
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Aug 28, 2009 2:55 am

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Map of the Problimatique by Muse would be a good one for a book. I think it would go good with a book about some troubled teen or young adult.

Oh Oh, it could be a narrative on their inner thoughts and even closely resemble schizophrenia. Only they wouldn't be schizophrenia, it could turn out to be some realistic dream and at the end they wake up confused about reality. Now I can't stop, if only I had the time to sit down and write it.


OMG. Thats brilliant!! I love that song!!!! and your right its perfect for that sort of story!!!!!! Nice!



Ghost of the Sun and Truth policy are excellent as well!!

NewBorn would be excellent for a paranormal story - either werewolve, vampire etc. i think too!

Blackholes and Butterflies would be another excellent title by muse too me thinks!
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Aug 28, 2009 10:46 am

A serious question, could you use a song title as a story title? Would you have to get permission from the group? I really want to use Map of a Problematique now.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Aug 28, 2009 12:20 pm

Yeah i wonder. I'm going to google and see?
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Aug 28, 2009 12:24 pm

I asked on absolutewrite

and this is what blacbird said

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As a title, you're okay to pull a phrase from a song (titles cannot be copyrighted), but if you need to explain how you got it somewhere in the text via a quotation and attribution, you'll need permission IF the song is still protected by copyright. That can be both difficult to get and expensive.

So i think as a title its ok?
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Aug 28, 2009 12:43 pm

I think if it's just a short story that's going to be published somewhere tiny, you would be okay, but otherwise I wouldn't bother, because I expect it'll be more trouble than it's worth. There are plenty of other great titles out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptySat Aug 29, 2009 3:05 pm

I agree. Even though it seems so easy, having dozens of titles at your fingertips, it seems like a lot of trouble. :/ Does the same thing apply for songs as chapter titles? I've seen a lot of people use song titles as chapter titles. Then again, that's fanfiction.net. ^^;

I think "Vulnerable," by Secondhand Serenade would make a good book title. :3
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptySat Aug 29, 2009 8:36 pm

The vaguer song titles (Conflict, Bloodline, etc.) really wouldn't be an issue, just like the vaguer titles of already-published books (Wings, for example--I can think of three books with the same name). It's just not an issue. But specific, easily recognizable song titles (Enjoy the Silence, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, etc.) would definitely pose problems, like the more recognizable book titles (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, A Tale of Two Cities, etc.).

Basically, the more well-known and concrete the song title, the less likely it is that you could get away with using it as a book title.

And song titles as chapter titles? I've seen it done in books where music is a major theme.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptySun Aug 30, 2009 2:34 am

Thanks novel! I've given you a reput point cause that was so helpful Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptySun Aug 30, 2009 2:10 pm

I did too, I think! ^^; Not quite sure how to work the system yet...

But thanks for the help, Novel! (Teehee, calling you Novel again...) I have considered doing my WIP in Kaden's perspective as well as Violet's, considering that it just may help me get to know him better, but I wanted to title each after after a jazz song by Frank Sinatra. :/ (Due to the fact that his mother was a lounge singer/lover of jazz and he thinks of her whenever he hears it. He listens to it sometimes to calm down.)) Would that be okay?
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyTue Sep 01, 2009 3:53 pm

I think 'This is How I Disappear' is a great one for a story. I can see it being an angsty-YA novel.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyTue Sep 01, 2009 3:58 pm

@Moon: I think it would be fine. Just do what you want for now--when you get to looking at publishing it, your editor will tell you if you need to change anything chapter-title-wise. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyThu Sep 03, 2009 11:13 am

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I think 'This is How I Disappear' is a great one for a story. I can see it being an angsty-YA novel.

I like that!
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyThu Sep 03, 2009 12:17 pm

I agree! ^^ I like it.

:] Thanks for the help, Novel! ^^ Again. >w<
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Sep 04, 2009 7:54 am

Daeonica who sings that song 'this is how i disappear' - i agree its really excellent title
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Sep 04, 2009 8:44 am

It's 'My Chemical Romance' from the album The Black Parade. There's actually quite a few songs on the album that I think could lead to good stories.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Sep 04, 2009 9:00 am

Ha i actually have that album somewhere Laughing except my 'darling' sister scratched it to hell.


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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Sep 04, 2009 4:46 pm

I could see Cancer or Teenagers being a short story, maybe Famous Last words, too. My friend has that album, but she let me borrow it once x3 And I honestly completely forgot about that song. o.o; I haven't listened to them in awhile.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyTue Sep 15, 2009 11:22 am

I've actually had a song title for a story title for a bit, "The Truth Beneath the Rose" which was a sort of prequel about one of my villains and how he came to be a villain. Everyone's got to start somewhere right? I changed the title for now to Fa├žade. But I loved the song title for it as well.

I think Apocalpyse Now by Muse is a great title as well for either story and song.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyTue Sep 15, 2009 12:39 pm

Oh yeah - apocalypse now is really good - and of course wasn't that name of the film too?

Ok i found clarification - basically you can't copyright titles of songs/books etc. BUT if you used a phrase/lyric from the actually song/book etc. then you have get permission etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyThu Sep 17, 2009 6:18 pm

:[ So I can't use a jazz song as a chapter title? That makes me really, really sad. ._.
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptyFri Sep 18, 2009 3:31 am

Well you can use the title of the jazz song (i think) but none of the lyrics without permission

as i understand it
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PostSubject: Re: Songs as Titles   Songs as Titles EmptySat Sep 19, 2009 9:20 am

I'm of the "call your chapters whatever the heck you want, your publisher will tell you if they need to be changed" camp. But still, it's a good thing to know. I think a good strategy is to not use it if it's very concrete or well-known and obvious. But if it's more vague or less-known, it's free game. Smile
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